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Dmyankee · 02-05-2010, 01:37 PM

They do not want to reveal any information till Guild Wars 2 info is released i think. Honestly right now ... it does not really matter, we are all hoping for a quality product. What i do not want is a rush to release and we get a shitty product like Vanguard, AoC, Warhammer ....

Raive · 02-05-2010, 05:59 PM

Releasing a good product is different from keeping a community informed. Look at SWTOR for example, anyone remember when they FIRST announced it? They had nothing worth showing, no gameplay videos or nothing. But they opened an official boards, and basically tossed out candy every friday to every other friday to keep people interested. This is from the community end.

My question (guess its different from others) is why can we not get the same?

The simple shocker to me is we don't have a PENNY of lore to read. You can't have a game without lore and if lore isn't available for public viewing then...yeah the game could be 1 - 2 years off.

Raive · 02-05-2010, 06:35 PM

End of year launch is probable for the reason of an unidentifiable length of alpha/beta testing. Some companies run them long and into the ground, others keep em quick and precise. Look at Cryptic (not saying its a good example), but their betas were very short in comparison to say Vanguard (even with the company stuff).

Europe · 02-06-2010, 01:49 AM

I just wish they'd get their official forums up and running. It's not just that they don't talk about the game, but outwardly, it appears that the project is stagnant. Other games do all kinds of silly stuff to keep their communities busy like silly Q&As where no information is released or community building activities and forum games. None of this stuff happens, and that seems like a bad sign to me.

If you've ever played a SoE MMO, you're paranoid that it means that people are being switched off the project to do other stuff. It feels to me like Trion has picked one project to be the AAA title and the others to be niche games. I hope that's not true, but it's my gut feeling.

Ciovala · 02-06-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by niarasolarris

Anyone who thinks the game will ACTUALLY be released this year is fooling themselves. The game will be out in 2011, most info i read from the devs on this site seems to lead to that. So just check back here at the end of this year..

I agree about 2011, but just because they've made me a pessimist. However that seems so silly since 2011 has SW:ToR and Guild Wars 2, in addition to possibly that Elder Scrolls MMO. This year we just have Cataclysm and then probably the yearly end of the year LotRO update.

I am amazed by how little companies care about community now. There is just so much 'information' that can be released which honestly doesn't give anything a way. Random screenshots which reveal nothing other than some scenery don't really reveal anything, but at least let fans know the company cares some minimum amount.

Even the tiny setting tidbits we used to get were at least interesting and without a greater context also don't reveal anything about the game.

Ravel · 02-06-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciovala

I am amazed by how little companies care about community now.

Is Trion a little company? And do they care little about community?

I do not think Trion is a small company. More then 100 million $ venture capital has been invested in that company.

As for the second question, what evidence do we have beside the fact they show no real interest in our community at this moment in time:
1. Recently two community manager left. They said there had better offers. The reason those offers were better is that there is probably nothing for them to do at Trion.
2. Jives contacts us. Her job description is assistant community manager, that might indicate that she is assitant to someone or something or it might mean that they have no role for a community manager and named that role assistent community manger, because she is not getting paid that well, and they have no need for a full community manager at the moment. The latter would coincide with the fact that they have nothing to tell to the public at the moment.

So, we can tell they have not much interest in community at this point in time. Perhaps they do not realise they are loosing good will because of this or they do not care. That might mean they have no interest in community, but it might also mean more important issues are at work in the company at the moment. It might also mean that the company is not well organised. Do they have plans to change this? We do not know. But they are not sending out the right signals at the moment.

Grond · 02-06-2010, 03:59 PM

I think little was taken out of context. I beleive what was meant was the lack of caring or small ammount of care being shown. Either way I am gonna start looking a little harder at Final Fantasy 14 since they are gonna release this year for sure.

Just found out my minor workmans comp injury just turned into a broken T-11, T-12 and L-1 and sitting in my recliner for 3 months. I have to find a game to play or I am gonna fall over dead.

Grond

Trynet · 02-09-2010, 06:54 AM

Well i agree with everything you say guys however a good game takes time to make i give everyone the point that they are not talking about the game that mutch but more you talk about ir more the people going to know when it cames out i suprice happears when you don't know right?? then look back abit and you will find most of the good game toke abit long to make like Saga of ryzom toke 2 years, darkfall unknow but they were 5 years on beta as far as i seen the beta for heroes of telara is not evan out yet it could take another 1/2/3/4 maybe 5 years befour its finish we just have to wait and see what comes next

Raive · 02-09-2010, 09:16 AM

Just to note, if it was another 2,3,4,5 years before HOT came out, trust me this site nor any of us would be here.

Just pointing out. And comparing other games to this is like apples and oranges.

Other games = active communities, community representatives from the comapny, a site with information. I have never seen any AAA mmo since EQ to not say a word about their game to their community. And if its not talking about the game, i've never seen it where they simply didn't communicate to the community about anything, even if its silly. Right now we got zero. And for an mmo that's launching against already-known juggernaughts such as GW2, SWTOR, etc. Yeah its an uphill battle.

Jives · 02-09-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sythe

Jives... You should just post some crappy screenshot that shows no mechanics... or anything that would give away your "Technology".... I wish MMOs were still based off of community... But they are no longer what they used to be... They are just money makers.... why don't you try and build a community for your game?.. Most people here want the game to succeed but we are more in a "what ever" its a game I will try it when it is released mood... We have no hype for it any more... Technology ? Technology is always evolving we will be impressed for all of 10 hours the first day as we explore... I doubt it will be like EQ 1 where it could barley run on machines of the day...

But MMOs nowa days don't give a rats *** about community any more... I guess this statement is true for all "The path to success is smoke pot and plagiarize" Show us something that this game is actually progressed... or get some true devs talking beside the community managers that would be cool too... Just something be creative keep this community together...

Even posting some crappy screenshot puts my job and my life style at risk. So sorry guys I really would like to help you out but I have a life and career to maintain as well. Things will be exciting/revived very soon, I promise.

We are building the back end of our Community, a lot of things have to happen before being released to the public. The devs are very busy making an awesome game for you guys to enjoy. They are working really hard on HoT!

Sorry to post once again without any juicy info!

02-05-2010, 01:37 PM	#31
Dmyankee Hero of Telara Join Date: Nov 2009	They do not want to reveal any information till Guild Wars 2 info is released i think. Honestly right now ... it does not really matter, we are all hoping for a quality product. What i do not want is a rush to release and we get a shitty product like Vanguard, AoC, Warhammer .... __________________ Best Regards, Artorus Giltanus Sage and Imminent Telara Junkie

02-05-2010, 05:59 PM	#32
Raive Hero of Telara Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA	Releasing a good product is different from keeping a community informed. Look at SWTOR for example, anyone remember when they FIRST announced it? They had nothing worth showing, no gameplay videos or nothing. But they opened an official boards, and basically tossed out candy every friday to every other friday to keep people interested. This is from the community end. My question (guess its different from others) is why can we not get the same? The simple shocker to me is we don't have a PENNY of lore to read. You can't have a game without lore and if lore isn't available for public viewing then...yeah the game could be 1 - 2 years off. __________________ Trinity - An Online Gaming Organization Founder & Guild Leader Heroes of Telara Team

02-05-2010, 06:35 PM	#33
Raive Hero of Telara Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA	End of year launch is probable for the reason of an unidentifiable length of alpha/beta testing. Some companies run them long and into the ground, others keep em quick and precise. Look at Cryptic (not saying its a good example), but their betas were very short in comparison to say Vanguard (even with the company stuff). __________________ Trinity - An Online Gaming Organization Founder & Guild Leader Heroes of Telara Team

02-09-2010, 09:16 AM	#39
Raive Hero of Telara Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA	Just to note, if it was another 2,3,4,5 years before HOT came out, trust me this site nor any of us would be here. Just pointing out. And comparing other games to this is like apples and oranges. Other games = active communities, community representatives from the comapny, a site with information. I have never seen any AAA mmo since EQ to not say a word about their game to their community. And if its not talking about the game, i've never seen it where they simply didn't communicate to the community about anything, even if its silly. Right now we got zero. And for an mmo that's launching against already-known juggernaughts such as GW2, SWTOR, etc. Yeah its an uphill battle. __________________ Trinity - An Online Gaming Organization Founder & Guild Leader Heroes of Telara Team

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02-06-2010, 01:49 AM	#34
Europe Hero of Telara Join Date: Jul 2009 Guild: Trinity	I just wish they'd get their official forums up and running. It's not just that they don't talk about the game, but outwardly, it appears that the project is stagnant. Other games do all kinds of silly stuff to keep their communities busy like silly Q&As where no information is released or community building activities and forum games. None of this stuff happens, and that seems like a bad sign to me. If you've ever played a SoE MMO, you're paranoid that it means that people are being switched off the project to do other stuff. It feels to me like Trion has picked one project to be the AAA title and the others to be niche games. I hope that's not true, but it's my gut feeling.

02-06-2010, 03:59 PM	#37
Grond Hero of Telara Join Date: Jan 2010	I think little was taken out of context. I beleive what was meant was the lack of caring or small ammount of care being shown. Either way I am gonna start looking a little harder at Final Fantasy 14 since they are gonna release this year for sure. Just found out my minor workmans comp injury just turned into a broken T-11, T-12 and L-1 and sitting in my recliner for 3 months. I have to find a game to play or I am gonna fall over dead. Grond

02-09-2010, 06:54 AM	#38
Trynet Hero of Telara Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bristol, UK Guild: TelaraHeros	Well i agree with everything you say guys however a good game takes time to make i give everyone the point that they are not talking about the game that mutch but more you talk about ir more the people going to know when it cames out i suprice happears when you don't know right?? then look back abit and you will find most of the good game toke abit long to make like Saga of ryzom toke 2 years, darkfall unknow but they were 5 years on beta as far as i seen the beta for heroes of telara is not evan out yet it could take another 1/2/3/4 maybe 5 years befour its finish we just have to wait and see what comes next